Anxiety and Gluten Free

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I cut out gluten completely in September of 2004---and even though I didn't eat anything containing gluten often before, because I was aware I had a problem. I'd still indulge from time to time until once after I'd eat en a spelt tortilla, and immediately started having an anxiety attack. I thought well it could be a coincidence, because I have them from time to time, but then I did again and walla---same results. So after that I decided to eliminate gluten completely......which was a little over a year ago and I can't say the anxiety is gone 100% but it is definitely better.

I was wondering if any of you out there have experienced anything similar?
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  • Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

    Mon, December 19, 2005 - 8:20 PM
    I have anxiety attacks but never paid attention to the food I ate before..just the situation. I'll have to note that.....hmmm. Thanks for giving me something to think about. =)
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      Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

      Tue, December 20, 2005 - 9:42 AM
      well I'm not saying it's always the food, but definitely there is a connection. Caffeine is a biggy for me too, as well as sugar. As you said just take notice, it seems to have helped me. *S*
      • Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

        Thu, December 22, 2005 - 12:39 PM
        Anxiety attacks come from personal stresses that are sometimes physiologiclly channeled into our ailments we have BUT they also are partially combined with our body chemistry...our personal bio-makeups. I have epilepsy as well as the gluten issues and many epileptics find that they experience extra seizures or seizure-like symptoms which are actually anxiety attacks due to the body already being set for the pattern of the health issues. Asthmatic people have similar problems with 'asthma attacks'.

        It would seem like common sense that if you eat what makes ypou sick then your body will feel lousy in places and that will effect it all over. The anxiety attack could have been a direct connection to your body having other warning signs of eating food that didn't agree with it in a simple sense of it.

        Just use common sense :)

        Obviously if it continues and such and you are prone to anxiety attacks to begin with then consult with your doctor too :)

        I used to take meds for anxiety attacks for years. I finally said to myself...'enough'....but it takes time and lots of personal 'correction' in one's make-up and diet and life to help with it. :)

        I hope that helps a little :)
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          Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

          Thu, December 22, 2005 - 3:37 PM
          Ho Lori, it does take time and detective work.....which I've been doing for guite a while now! I too at one time took medication for anxiety but no longer and actually am doing much better with out it.....Thanks for the tips! ;-)
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            Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

            Sat, December 24, 2005 - 9:33 PM
            There's a great workbook from New Harbinger press called the Stress & Anxiety Workbook which has a bunch of practical simple cognitive therapy techniques.

            They also discuss things that acidify your body like meat & sugar make you more prone to anxiety & panic.

            Breathing & exercise help alkalize it.
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              Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

              Sun, December 25, 2005 - 11:58 PM
              I eat relatively healthy, no white sugar at all, nor meat......and Yes I'm attempting to make my body more alkaline instead of being ~So~ acidic, which I really hadn't heard that, that being acidic causes one to be more anxious, but that makes sense. Thanks ;-)
              • Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

                Mon, December 26, 2005 - 6:06 AM
                Maybe this might give some direction :)
                What other health conditions do you have? What kind of anxiety attacks do you have?

                Also there is a 'panic attacks' tribe group here in tribe that is extremely helpful.

                Panic attacks are another name for anxiety attacks.

                No matter what 'diet' you try in the end you must get control of your own body which ironiclly has very little to do with diet in the end result. HOW you feel physiclly yes. But your own state of mind is your own :) I almost years ago lost my job and ruined my life because of them. Alot of people who suffer from them experience this problem. The boils down to 'you' inside yourself and how you take control of how you are feeling. Your mind can convince yourself that you are ill or that you are ok :) ESPECIALLY during a panic/anxiety attack.

                I hope this puts some direction on it. :)
  • Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

    Mon, January 2, 2006 - 3:26 PM
    Yes, and here's an abstract from Medscape and Medline about an association between panic attacks and celiac disease. I also have thyroid disease, and this makes sense to me. Yes it is a small study, but if the methodology were bogus, it wouldn't have made it into the journal...

    Association between panic disorder, major depressive disorder and celiac disease: a possible role of thyroid autoimmunity.
    J Psychosom Res. 2002; 53(3):789-93 (ISSN: 0022-3999)
    Carta MG ; Hardoy MC ; Boi MF ; Mariotti S ; Carpiniello B ; Usai P
    Division of Psychiatry, Department of Public Health, University of Cagliari, Via Liguria 13, 09127 Cagliari, Italy. mgcarta@tiscali.it

    OBJECTIVE: To evaluate the association between celiac disease and specific anxiety and depressive disorders and to identify potential common pathogenetic links, with particular regard to thyroid function and autoimmunity. METHODS: Cases included 36 adult celiac patients, 25 females and 11 males, aged 18-64 years. Controls comprised 144 healthy subjects matched by sex and age with no clinical evidence or family history of celiac disease. Diagnosis of celiac disease was made on the basis of clinical history and serological criteria. Psychiatric diagnoses were formulated using the International Composite Diagnostic Interview, according to DSM-IV criteria. Thyroid was evaluated by palpation, echography and measurement of serum-free thyroid hormones (FT4, FT3), thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH) and antithyroid autoantibodies (anti-TPO). RESULTS: Compared to controls, a significantly higher number of celiac patients met criteria for lifetime [15 (41.7%) versus 30 (29.8%), P < .01] and 6-month [7 (19.4%) versus 9 (6.2%), OR = 3.2, chi(2) = 5.2, P < .05] major depressive disorder (MDD) and lifetime [5 (13.9%) versus 3 (2.1%), P < .001] and 6-month [3 (8.1%) versus 2 (1.4%), P < .05] panic disorder (PD). Anti-TPO prevalence was significantly higher in celiac patients than in the control group (11/36 = 30.5% versus 14/144 = 9.7%, P < .001). A higher frequency of PD and MDD was found in celiac patients with positive anti-TPO when compared to negative anti-TPO patients (4/11 = 36.4% PD in TPO+ versus 1/25 = 4% PD in TPO-, P < .01; 9/11 = 81.8% MD in TPO+ versus 6/25 = 9.5% MD in TPO-, P < .01). CONCLUSION: Patients affected by celiac disease tend to show a high prevalence of PD and MDD and association with subclinical thyroid disease appears to represent a significant risk factor for these psychiatric disorders.

    PreMedline Identifier: 12217453

    here's the link; you may have to create your own Medscape registration to access it there, however.

    www.medscape.com/medline/a...t/12217453

    Hope this helps,

    Ripleys_Cat
  • Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

    Mon, January 2, 2006 - 3:34 PM
    Another abstract about anxiety and celiac disease:

    Unusual polyarthritis as a unique clinical manifestation of coeliac disease.
    Rheumatol Int. 2000; 20(1):29-30 (ISSN: 0172-8172)
    Bagnato GF ; Quattrocchi E ; Gulli S ; Giacobbe O ; Chirico G ; Romano C ; Purello D'Ambrosio F
    Dip. Medicina Interna, Policlinico Universitario, Messina, Italy. bagnato@imeuniv.unime.it

    This report describes a patient who presented with an unusual polyarthritis accompanied by myalgia, fever and anxiety. After extensive clinical and serological evaluation, duodenal biopsy and serological tests provided evidence for the diagnosis of coeliac disease (CD). The patient was promptly put on a gluten-free diet, which led to an improvement in the clinical abnormalities.

    PreMedline Identifier: 11149658
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      Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

      Sat, January 7, 2006 - 1:37 PM
      Hi Ripley,

      I've read literature indicating going on a gluten free diet has also helped those who suffer from Schizophrenia....{sp}..It really does help my anxiety attacks. Of course there is more to it than diet, but from my own experience diet is important in more ways than one! ;-)
      • Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

        Wed, January 18, 2006 - 6:57 AM
        I think it makes a difference all throughout one's body and mind.

        I made chocolate mochi candy for myself this week and it was excellent!

        Ripleys_Cat
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          Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

          Wed, January 18, 2006 - 4:25 PM
          chocolate mochi candy......well I'd like ~that~ recipe. I eat mochi all of the time, but never tried it via chocolate!

          *S*
          • Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

            Fri, January 20, 2006 - 1:50 AM
            I hope you will like it. I started a new topic with the recipes I'm working with for you and others to enjoy. Please let me know how it turns out for you?

            Ripleys_Cat
  • Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

    Fri, February 3, 2006 - 5:00 PM
    I have heard of this several times before. (I have been an active university researcher involved with spelt for about 4 decades) In most cases, the removal of wheat from the diet has been sufficient to get away from the problem. Most people who have had trouble with wheat in this regard can eat spelt products, especially in moderation and especially thesprouted spelt breads. (Sprouting is thought to be the secret as it causes 's partial "digestion" of protein and amino acids which are thought to be the culprit.) As in most situations, there is a continum of sensitivity so where you fall will be up to you to decide. I hate to see you give up all "gluten" containing foods. That's like giving up riding in a car after having 3 flat tires.
    Harold
    • Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

      Sat, February 4, 2006 - 7:10 AM
      Using spelt as an alternative is fine it would seem if it is 'just' a wheat 'allergy' yes :) Spelt unfortunately causes great pain over the course of a weak cummulatively in me as an example and I am pretty much only gluten intollerant. Giving up all gluten is not as bad as it seems though. After three years on the diet myselself finally mastering its intricacies I can honestly say I am healthier for it, my doctors are amazed who would never have thought of it like my neurologist for my epilepsy too and to tell you the truth I eat way more 'gourmet' fancier, prettier meals than people who eat gluten ;) It is hard to fathom it if you have never given up gluten but I am now more aware that i used to not like eating dinner rolls or pizza much and would eat like a bite. McDonalds isn't truly healthy for most people anyways either. The human body is an amazing thing if we only listen to its signals :)

      Giving up gluten is not as bad as it seems :) It's sort of like...being strictly kosher ;)
      And I hate matzoh anyways LOL.
      • Kashrut, Passover & GF

        Sat, February 4, 2006 - 9:50 AM
        Wait...do you keep Kosher? I do, though not strictly.

        I actually like matzah, especially matzah brei. But then, since I have a whole cadre of gluten-free recipies under my belt now, I suspect that when Passover comes I may not miss bread at all!

        When Passover rolls around, we should start a new thread for those of us getting a double-whammy.
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      Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

      Sun, March 12, 2006 - 11:24 AM
      Harold I'd eat spelt and oats every once in a while, but after one incident when almost immediatly began having an anxiety attack after eating spelt tortillas-----then a repeat after I thought that might be the culpert. I've completely eliminated gluten 100% unless its in something I'm unaware of and the anxiety is better. It could all be in my mind, but whatever since my minds dealing with the anxiety we'll let it have it's way? *grin*

      That makes me think have any of you ever read how the gut is the 2nd brain?

      • Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

        Wed, July 18, 2007 - 9:35 PM
        I think its important for us to find ways to figure out how to tell if we are screwing up our diet, and if you always have panic attacks after eating gluten, then its a way to become aware of the slip up.

        I have had to listen to my body more and more, I have found that I have issues with soy... sigh....

        I also think that finding a way to live without gluten for me is incredibly important for my life, and its learning to make new tastes and learning how to cook all the time and enjoy it.
  • Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

    Wed, July 11, 2007 - 2:35 AM
    I was just doing a google search on anxiety and spelt.
    I went on a detox 8 months ago now and thats when my anxiety began. the first time I ate spelt. I thought I was just being stupid.
    I eat it still as I love it, but almost everytime, I have a panick attack afterwards.
    I am wondering if it is more than just a coincidence. :S
    • Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

      Wed, July 11, 2007 - 2:46 PM
      Spelt is not gluten free. If you are gluten intolerant or have Celiac disease, spelt is not an option. Those for whom gluten free is a choice instead of a medical necessity or those who have issues with wheat only, may be able to eat spelt. If you have been diagnosed with Celiac Disease or gluten intolerance and are eating spelt, you are not gluten free and may be causing damage to your body, even if you don't have symptoms.
  • Re: Anxiety and Gluten Free

    Sun, August 12, 2007 - 10:22 AM
    I have anxiety issues too and yes, i'm sure stinking rotten gluten plays a part in it ... caffeine is chief culprit as is stressors in life and humid east coast weather .......

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